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- From: billp@io.com (Bill Peterson)
- Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.paranet.ufo,sci.skeptic,sci.physics
- Subject: Re: Dr. Paul Hill's repulsive force field
- Date: 15 Jun 1996 00:16:45 -0500
- Organization: Illuminati Online
- Lines: 72
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- References: <31B24188.2488@students.wisc.edu> <31C1E4E1.497@fc.hp.com> <4psvot$ru0@pentagon.io.com> <31C211FE.1CFA@fc.hp.com>
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- In article <31C211FE.1CFA@fc.hp.com>, Jim Rogers <jfr@fc.hp.com> wrote:
- >Bill Peterson wrote:
- >> In article <31C1E4E1.497@fc.hp.com>, Jim Rogers <jfr@fc.hp.com> wrote:
- >....
- >> >To the SaucerZealots, though, such things simply don't happen. If it's not an
- >> >aircraft, bird or balloon, and it's bobbing around in the air, it must be ET.
- >> >We all know that cardboard can't fly.
-
- This is a clear indication of a message:
- 1) there is such a thing as a SaucerZealot, and that sounds bad
- 2) SZ's think this cardboard effect doesn't exist (pshaw)
- 3) therefore SZ's think all things are ET, even cardboard.
-
- What does this actually mean, and why phrase it with the term
- zealot? Is this perchance a tad, shall we say, slanted?
-
- >>
- >> I guess that explains the radar track of 1800 mph, the several ground
- >> and air witnesses, the Navy plane in pursuit, being outmaneuvered, the
- >> subsequent sightings on the next day, and the wierdo military
- >> guards who, after seeing it up close, described it as a small ball,
- >> perhaps 1-3 feet in diameter (similar to a "foo fighter"). Thanks.
- >
- >> To the Skepti-lame-heads, this is the behaviour of cardboard!
- >
- >Well, let's stick to the context. Did this 1800 mph thingy that
- >outmaneuvered Navy planes use the "falling leaf" and "wobbling coin"
- >maneuvers? What does a ball look like when it "wobbles" like a silver
- >dollar or a leaf? I can't explain abduction tales with drifting
- >cardboard, either. Is that relevant?
- >
-
- Ok, here's some cases in Hill's book for bank-to-turn maneuvers:
- 1) In 1951, several General Mills balloon engineers were testing
- a new Skyhook balloon, and watched several white objects approach,
- then the objects circled the balloon, and the observers noticed
- that the objects were disk shaped, and banked to turn. These
- people personally related their story to Hill, since they worked
- with him. Since the objects circled the balloon, a good estimate
- was made of their size: 60 feet in diameter.
- 2) the Tremonton film, Hill said "The film was good evidence of
- of the existence of saucers" and "They banked to turn". Hill was
- able to see the film and analyze it frame by frame at the time.
- 3) several more cases of tilting and wobbling of saucers
- 4) Hill himself had a sighting of a "dirigible" type, and observed
- it's tilt as it accelerated
-
- >> BWAHAHAHAHA! Fooled the FBI too! Rich, very rich! Jim, is this your
- >> idea of a joke? Certainly you're not going to ascribe every sighting
- >> (like the above one) to cardboard or newspaper, are you? And why
- >> chime in with the "SZ" bullshit? It makes you look bad. As far as I
- >> can tell, you're calling *me* an SZ, in which case I challenge you
- >> to reproduce the above, documented sighting, using newspaper
- >> or cardboard, or retract your use of the term "SZ", which term is
- >> clearly meant as a denigrating, derogatory comment. The use of this
- >> racist-like term is the hallmark of the demagogue. And, Jim, I'm
- >> wondering if that's you?
- >
- >Is it *necessary* to explain every sighting with cardboard? Why do
- >you expect one-size-fits-all explanations?
-
- Then why ridicule people, that you have separated out with the
- belittling term SaucerZealot? What does cardboard have to do with anything,
- other than it is one more cause of spurious sighting reports? We
- know about Venus, etc. You are going out of your way to claim that
- SZ's, whatever that means, are so lame that nothing they say should
- be taken seriously, because of this lack of cardboard recognition?
- This is too much! Maybe you just say "SZ" to be offensive ...
-
- BP
- --
- Disclaimer: I only speak for myself, and sometimes I wish I hadn't!
-